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A Mouse for Those with Hands
This mouse looks basically just like a hand. It is what’s called “ergonomic,” if you know what I mean. It’s the “G50 Vanguard”, a mouse made both to combat major causes of RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) and to be aesthetically pleasing to PC gamers. The hand goes on the mouse, the mouse works with the CPU. Months of solid foam model studies were done to find the best combo of fronts to fight RSI with this mouse, and a BUNCH of buttons were added to tend to the gamers.
But where’s the scroll wheel?! It’s sorta still there because it’s kinda needed in some way or another, but where it’s been up until now has been terrible for the finger due to the unnatural finger arc movement. Instead the thumb rest is the new location for the scroll track and bar. The track does the same thing as the wheel did, but works more like a treadmill track.
Like all the other controls, this track is full customizable as to the functions it activates.
And you know how it’s a hand? It raises the entirety of your hand off the table and reduces wrist anchoring and finger clamping, two big causes of RSI. The total amount of buttons on the mouse is 11, that’s ELEVEN clickable controls with the option of a mappable function button which then increases that number to 23. All buttons have been ergonomically designed and located to keep with the fabulous anti-RSI theme of the whole mouse.
Hand mouse! Activate!
Designer: Damien Crossan
93 Comments »
karl says
surely with all those foam models that have been made the ultimately chosen design could warrant a photo.
Capricorn says
I went to Logitech's web site to see if these were available for pre-order and for how much. I hate it when a concept is so close to possible that I assume it's already underway. I want this, Logitech!
Kyle says
What exactly is the difference on the wrist? It seems to me these images say "with a mouse, you hold it like this=BAD. with a Vanguard, you unnaturally hold it how we tell you to=GOOD…"
What is supporting my wrist now that my hand is raised an extra inch off my desk?
Also graphically. why are the V and D in the logo filled in.. Venereal Disease anyone?
juan says
Anyone who has read (really fast) just one book about ergonomics knows this is a non-ergonomic device:
1.- Finger forms = Non ergonomic. Just anti ergonomic. Some google help sometimes if you don't like books.
2.- A "bunch" of buttons = interface problems = Non ergonomic
3.- Why spent months designing the god's hand mouse that is no ones hand, when you can design a simple universal surface?
4.- Why shiny surfaces for a constantly touched object. OK some of the best brands make that mistake I think we all apes like shiny blinkies.
Iám triyng not to be harsh but that just some design basic theory and it get's me a kind of sad seeing that kind of mistakes.
I wonder why we need that distracting and I-am-the-center-of-the-universe device (or spaceship) when we already have the technology to have no pointing device at all.
Regarding the design I really don't like shapes nor color, and doesn't even follows logitech design style (maybe Alienware's). I think objects should help us doing everyday tasks, just silently not screaming, also avoiding more waste in our planet. That's what I call good design. Hope this helps to improve something we do in this world.
I'm not trying to offend anyone it's just I can't understand some things I see. Maybe I am too dumb or think a better life should be simpler. Anyway who am I to say what's right or wrong when there are a lot of books in this world.
Regards,
Critical Kitteh says
Anyone who has read (really fast) just this article knows this is a gaming mouse.
1.- Finger forms = already exists to an extent on current mice: just look at any Razor mice. Some google help sometimes if you don't follow gaming mice designs.
2.- A "bunch" of buttons = some use to some gamers = ok idea! Go check out the Razor Naga or that crazy open office mouse if you want to see excessive.
3.- Why not spend time to design a good looking mouse that will fit most people? I'm sure the small Logitech notebook mouse doesn't fit people with big hands, but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't be able to enjoy it. Specialization != bad.
4.- This one i agree with, actually… I'd much rather they make it out of the soft-touch plastic type material for better grip. The shiny is a pretty, but terrible idea. There's no real gaming mouse on the market that is glossy for a good reason.
I'm calling you out as an asshole who likes to hide behind their pretentiousness, much like the "No offence, but…" type of statements which are most of the time just bullshit (the "no offence" part, not the statement itself). If you're going to criticize, then do it, and stop trying to pretend to be nice.
I wonder why you come and talk about how over the top the design is when you obviously have no idea what the general gaming mouse market is like… many are pretty ridiculous looking. While this one would indeed stand out, being hand shaped, it would not be a remarkably crazy design considering its peers. And seriously, read the article. It's a gaming mouse. No body would play games that require a mouse (FPS, RTS) with a touchpad or touchscreen.
While i like functionality over form, that doesn't mean we should abandon form completely. While this mouse's design is pretty crazy, disparaging it because of its form would be like making fun of Ferraris because they're (were) so damn angular looking, and telling them they should change it to a more conventional form, like a Toyota Corrolla.
Once again, you come off as an ass that think his own views are better, but tries to hide behind the wistful "maybe"s, pining for that perfect vision in your mind, and defers his own opinions to those in some books… while the same design books that you mention will probably also have plenty of examples of outrageous and beautiful and *gasp* functional designs inside them!
Cheers!
Damien Crossan says
Thanks for calling this guy out on this one, it would be a bit self serving for me to say anything.
Aaron Morris says
im not diagreeing with you on anything just wanted to point out that the logiteh mice are that bad when you have big hands.
Critical Kitteh says
Anyone who has read (really fast) just this article knows this is a gaming mouse.
1.- Finger forms = already exists to an extent on current mice: just look at any Razor mice. Some google help sometimes if you don't follow gaming mice designs.
2.- A “bunch” of buttons = some use to some gamers = ok idea! Go check out the Razor Naga or that crazy open office mouse if you want to see excessive.
3.- Why not spend time to design a good looking mouse that will fit most people? I'm sure the small Logitech notebook mouse doesn't fit people with big hands, but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't be able to enjoy it. Specialization != bad.
4.- This one i agree with, actually… I'd much rather they make it out of the soft-touch plastic type material for better grip. The shiny is a pretty, but terrible idea. There's no real gaming mouse on the market that is glossy for a good reason.
I'm calling you out as an asshole who likes to hide behind their pretentiousness, much like the “No offence, but…” type of statements which are most of the time just bullshit (the “no offence” part, not the statement itself). If you're going to criticize, then do it, and stop trying to pretend to be nice.
I wonder why you come and talk about how over the top the design is when you obviously have no idea what the general gaming mouse market is like… many are pretty ridiculous looking. While this one would indeed stand out, being hand shaped, it would not be a remarkably crazy design considering its peers. And seriously, read the article. It's a gaming mouse. No body would play games that require a mouse (FPS, RTS) with a touchpad or touchscreen.
While i like functionality over form, that doesn't mean we should abandon form completely. While this mouse's design is pretty crazy, disparaging it because of its form would be like making fun of Ferraris because they're (were) so damn angular looking, and telling them they should change it to a more conventional form, like a Toyota Corrolla.
Once again, you come off as an ass that think his own views are better, but tries to hide behind the wistful “maybe”s, pining for that perfect vision in your mind, and defers his own opinions to those in some books… while the same design books that you mention will probably also have plenty of examples of outrageous and beautiful and *gasp* functional designs inside them!
Cheers!
Damien Crossan says
Thanks for calling this guy out on this one, it would be a bit self serving for me to say anything.
Aaron Morris says
im not diagreeing with you on anything just wanted to point out that the logiteh mice are that bad when you have big hands.
smk says
This is funny, if you read about the design process of the original Microsoft IntelliMouse, it went through a phase that looked much like this mouse.
Chris says
Looks amazing, appears to be form-factored to the hand perfectly. I would love a relaxed, lazy grip on a mouse, fingers played out, as opposed to all crunched up. I thought this mouse was real, I would have dropped money on it in a heartbeat to play Starcraft 2 with and any other computing, general or specific. Wicked wicked design.
Victor Assis says
Isn’t it heavy? Hard to slide because of the weight? Does it fit regular pc tables? Does it apply to my hand (I’m almost 2 meters high, big hands) and my girl’s (she’s barely 1,60 m, tiny hands)?
I tend to agree with Juan. Seems like a great idea, until you actually start using it.
Brian says
I've been dreaming of a mouse like this for years. Please, please, PLEASE bring this to retail. I would have purchased this instantly without hesitation. This is some great work Damien. I'll keep my fingers crossed that Logitech or some other manufacturer will recognize the genius of this design!
Victor Assis says
Isn’t it heavy? Hard to slide because of the weight? Does it fit regular pc tables? Does it apply to my hand (I’m almost 2 meters high, big hands) and my girl’s (she’s barely 1,60 m, tiny hands)?
I tend to agree with Juan. Seems like a great idea, until you actually start using it.
Roger says
This mouse looks like it wouldn't work well for games like TF2 where you need to move your mouse in tight, fast motions. It looks like it wouldn't work well for anything involving rocket jumping. Also, how would you pick up the mouse with your fingers played out on it? there's only so much mouse room and being able to quickly set the mouse on the other side of the pad helps with 360 degree turns. And don't think for a minute I'd want some weird hand-looking mouse on my desk, no matter how shiny it is.
treez says
I understand the idea, but it still needs more research because I think it would be too bulky
Chevy787 says
How to be a faggot even when using a mouse?
pwn star says
be you?
pwn star says
be you?
Ergonogadget says
It's sort of a cool design concept but I don't think it will do anything to prevent RSI's. How can repetition be solved with a different shaped mouse? It can reduce the forces associated with mousing but it will do nothing for the actual repetitiveness of it. The solution to RSI's is both simple and cheap: take more breaks from mousing.
Ergonogadget says
It's sort of a cool design concept but I don't think it will do anything to prevent RSI's. How can repetition be solved with a different shaped mouse? It can reduce the forces associated with mousing but it will do nothing for the actual repetitiveness of it. The solution to RSI's is both simple and cheap: take more breaks from mousing.
Torcflaed says
I agree there seems to be no easy way to pick up this mouse to recenter a very important consideration
but with all those buttons what if one, maybe the pinky finger as it is not used a lot now, was mapped to turn off reading the mouse, so you press and move it without having to lift it at all, wich I think might improve ergonimics a bit.
Torcflaed says
I agree there seems to be no easy way to pick up this mouse to recenter a very important consideration
but with all those buttons what if one, maybe the pinky finger as it is not used a lot now, was mapped to turn off reading the mouse, so you press and move it without having to lift it at all, wich I think might improve ergonimics a bit.
BFran says
Add to cart.
BFran says
Add to cart.
Dave says
Logitech hates the left handed.
Only one product of theirs is Ambidexterous, and that's the one I use.
No scroll wheel.
None.
Lol says
I rofl'd. It's so true. I learned to use my right for computer stuff!
Dave says
Logitech hates the left handed.
Only one product of theirs is Ambidexterous, and that's the one I use.
No scroll wheel.
None.
Lol says
I rofl'd. It's so true. I learned to use my right for computer stuff!
marnus says
Ok… so I'm left handed – now what?
Ebony Blue says
They might produce a left handed one!
Eggman says
Now learn to be right handed like a normal person.
marnus says
Ok… so I'm left handed – now what?
Ebony Blue says
They might produce a left handed one!
Eggman says
Now learn to be right handed like a normal person.
Deeeeeeeeeeee says
A mouse for those with hands.. RIGHT HANDS. What's up with the lefty hate?? I'd think designers would have this down by now. It would be nice for a left handed version to be seen as well!
Iron-Druid says
I understand that simply mirroring the design process would be easy, but making another machine to mould the parts would be expensive, they'd be almost doubling up their initial manufacturing costs. One machine (or set of them) to make the righty parts, and one for the lefties. I don't think most companies can~(read as "want to eat into their profts to") afford to cater to us lefties as much. Sure, we'd actually think of buying the mouse, but overall, they'd make less money releasing two versions than just the righty one, and piling on the Lefty Hate. I'd like to see a company bring out an Only Left Handed gaming mouse like this (or there may already be one, I use a simple Logitech Ambidex) as that might encourage all of us lefties to shell out a few Dollars/Pounds/Euro/whatever to pick one up. And then we can rant about Righty hate in comments too!
Deeeeeeeeeeee says
A mouse for those with hands.. RIGHT HANDS. What's up with the lefty hate?? I'd think designers would have this down by now. It would be nice for a left handed version to be seen as well!
Iron-Druid says
I understand that simply mirroring the design process would be easy, but making another machine to mould the parts would be expensive, they'd be almost doubling up their initial manufacturing costs. One machine (or set of them) to make the righty parts, and one for the lefties. I don't think most companies can~(read as “want to eat into their profts to”) afford to cater to us lefties as much. Sure, we'd actually think of buying the mouse, but overall, they'd make less money releasing two versions than just the righty one, and piling on the Lefty Hate. I'd like to see a company bring out an Only Left Handed gaming mouse like this (or there may already be one, I use a simple Logitech Ambidex) as that might encourage all of us lefties to shell out a few Dollars/Pounds/Euro/whatever to pick one up. And then we can rant about Righty hate in comments too!
EllisDee says
I Think this design is awesome, also its still a concept so maybe they wont use the shiny plastic. I LOVE my G700 and the grippy material they used on it.
They could always release 2 models, one with all the buttons and grip for gamers and one all shiny like to fight RSI in the office.
….. Also needless to say WIRELESS PLEASE
To say that a design like this isn't ergonomic is just plain crazy. Comfort, Function AND Form are all over this baby.
Good luck with pushing this through to release…. I wait with baited breath
EllisDee says
Also as for lefties…… Never trust a left handed person!!!!!
Just joking.
EllisDee says
I Think this design is awesome, also its still a concept so maybe they wont use the shiny plastic. I LOVE my G700 and the grippy material they used on it.
They could always release 2 models, one with all the buttons and grip for gamers and one all shiny like to fight RSI in the office.
….. Also needless to say WIRELESS PLEASE
To say that a design like this isn't ergonomic is just plain crazy. Comfort, Function AND Form are all over this baby.
Good luck with pushing this through to release…. I wait with baited breath
EllisDee says
Also as for lefties…… Never trust a left handed person!!!!!
Just joking.
Tamar Baratashvili says
I want it!!!!
Tamar Baratashvili says
I want it!!!!
Klaus Janssen says
Just sexy.
Klaus Janssen says
Just sexy.
Almekhlafi Portal says
very very nice and best smart
thankyou
Almekhlafi Portal says
very very nice and best smart
thankyou
john fister says
this desing totaly blew my mind ..coz i asked myself why we are using only our 2 or 3 fingers ? instead of 5 damn they did it we got 5 fingers each hand remember ..
john fister says
this desing totaly blew my mind ..coz i asked myself why we are using only our 2 or 3 fingers ? instead of 5 damn they did it we got 5 fingers each hand remember ..
Colum says
This is a really neat concept. It would be really cool if they made this into reality.
Colum says
This is a really neat concept. It would be really cool if they made this into reality.
knamrac says
I don't like it. i'm a gamer and other gamers agree with me on this one.
knamrac says
I don't like it. i'm a gamer and other gamers agree with me on this one.
Links says
Unfortunately for all the hopefuls, Logitech has already denied having anything to do with this mouse on their own forums
As a gamer I have to agree with the few people who have mentioned not being able to lift the mouse to move freely without the cursor following. Maybe if the right most fingers (pinky and it's neighbor) were resting on the right side of the mouse, allowing easy lifting without losing too much of the ergonomic shape.
That said I do like the same, my bigest problem as a big handed gamer is after a couple hours of play/work (Call centers are hard on your carpal tunnel) my palm gets cramped from being in a rounded position holding the mouse. I'd limit theprogramable buttons to 5-6 though. If you have to many in there, you'll be brain lagging trying to remember which does what at the wrong moments. Simpler is better is my personnal preference, but worst case those who agree with me could leave the extras unassigned.
All in all a very creative piece of theoretical tech, applauds to you for the work put into this.
Links says
Unfortunately for all the hopefuls, Logitech has already denied having anything to do with this mouse on their own forums
As a gamer I have to agree with the few people who have mentioned not being able to lift the mouse to move freely without the cursor following. Maybe if the right most fingers (pinky and it's neighbor) were resting on the right side of the mouse, allowing easy lifting without losing too much of the ergonomic shape.
That said I do like the same, my bigest problem as a big handed gamer is after a couple hours of play/work (Call centers are hard on your carpal tunnel) my palm gets cramped from being in a rounded position holding the mouse. I'd limit theprogramable buttons to 5-6 though. If you have to many in there, you'll be brain lagging trying to remember which does what at the wrong moments. Simpler is better is my personnal preference, but worst case those who agree with me could leave the extras unassigned.
All in all a very creative piece of theoretical tech, applauds to you for the work put into this.
cyanide227 says
Is this a mouse for gaming? anyway
1. The shape looks interesting, it worth testing.
I dont think anyone get used to it.
2. About your wrist “support”, how can you do some precise movement if your hold arm in the air.
Ergonomic? I don't C any ergonomics, i c just a sketchy design plastic model. With a plasticine badly modeled arm. Which also makes me feel ergonomics isn't your strong side of thinking of.
3. This is a WORST typography EVER! Fire your emblem creator. PROFIT guaranteed.
4. We all had enough with this cheapest glossiness you can ever imagine, its not a mirror, its the device u use every day.
In some cases u want it to be awesome. AWESOME do not equal GLOSSY. Glossy = cheapSUXX. Give us some surface of mat or if u like carbon look like small tiny texture. Give us some smooth rubber.
5. And please next time u use word ergonomic. PLEASE mean it. Accordingly to this not even solid sketch i don't have any desire not only to buy this mouse but also to buy mouses from this BRAND whatever it is.
6. Maybe this form barely gonna work for peoples with RSI but forget about GAMERS. Forever. )) And i don't joke.
613 The Evil says
As a left-hander I laugh on your face Logitech and I click another link with my left hand on the Microsoft mouse I own. They suck also but yeah.
darkshado says
doesnt look that comfortable actually. i mean it would take months to get use to that new grip and where are left and right click
Oliver says
It'd be awesome and go so well with a G series keyboard. Alas, it's simply a concept.
Oliver says
It'd be awesome and go so well with a G series keyboard. Alas, it's simply a concept.
victor isass says
dont like it. dont buy it.
Raja says
I like it.
i want the cost of the item and where i can get this
Danana says
Left handed?
nate says
you should look into the saitek rat 7, it doesn’t look much like the picture, but if you set it up right it feels amazing and your hand is in almost an identical position to that second to last picture.
Kim says
I thought that it indeed was better for you hand to rest on the desk, rather than floating in mid air :S
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