Comments on: Surreal Becomes Real With Toys And AR http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/ Modern Industrial Design News Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:40:05 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Frantz Lasorne http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-83390 Frantz Lasorne Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:28:07 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-83390 Sounds a fun game, but I guess I have to try and play to be able to understand what you mean about AR concepts in the game ;-) Sounds a fun game, but I guess I have to try and play to be able to understand what you mean about AR concepts in the game ;-)

]]> By: Intrigued http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-82188 Intrigued Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:52:30 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-82188 www.shadowrun4.com For more information about the game I mentioned. I thought I'd just bring it up, because it has some very similar concepts to your AR game in it. Just something I thought of when I saw your videos... http://www.shadowrun4.com

For more information about the game I mentioned. I thought I’d just bring it up, because it has some very similar concepts to your AR game in it. Just something I thought of when I saw your videos…

]]> By: Frantz Lasorne http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-82113 Frantz Lasorne Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:04:22 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-82113 First of all, thank you very much 'Intrigued' about this great comment. I totally agree with you, and I had this idea when I was doing my project about the miniatures but I decided for my prototype to simplify it with only two toys just to illustrate the main idea that you could play in a tangible way with your miniatures and having a complete gameplay assisted by the computer and not having to read a huge manual with all the rules... And of course then adding cool virtual effects! And I am pretty sure that in a near future something like that will come with warhammers. I kind like the concept of The Eye of Judgement but for me it is duplicating the area to look and you are always going back and forward from the tangible board game to the TV... I would prefer to have a direct overlay on the vision allowing the user to focus on the game like I do with my prototype. But, the hardware is not yet ready, goggles are still heavy, wire connected to a computer and you don't see the reality directly but through a screen... However this is incredibly improving from year to year. For instance Vuzix will launch at the end of this year some semi-transparent goggles (like sunglasses) dedicated to augmented reality. http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_wrap920av.html So, I am really confident with the evolution of AR in the next 5 coming years. Hope it will be true. I don't know the game you are talking about but it sounds interesting ^^ First of all, thank you very much ‘Intrigued’ about this great comment.

I totally agree with you, and I had this idea when I was doing my project about the miniatures but I decided for my prototype to simplify it with only two toys just to illustrate the main idea that you could play in a tangible way with your miniatures and having a complete gameplay assisted by the computer and not having to read a huge manual with all the rules… And of course then adding cool virtual effects! And I am pretty sure that in a near future something like that will come with warhammers.

I kind like the concept of The Eye of Judgement but for me it is duplicating the area to look and you are always going back and forward from the tangible board game to the TV… I would prefer to have a direct overlay on the vision allowing the user to focus on the game like I do with my prototype. But, the hardware is not yet ready, goggles are still heavy, wire connected to a computer and you don’t see the reality directly but through a screen… However this is incredibly improving from year to year. For instance Vuzix will launch at the end of this year some semi-transparent goggles (like sunglasses) dedicated to augmented reality.
http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_wrap920av.html

So, I am really confident with the evolution of AR in the next 5 coming years. Hope it will be true.

I don’t know the game you are talking about but it sounds interesting ^^

]]> By: Intrigued http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-81679 Intrigued Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:34:05 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-81679 I'm not going to argue about whether we need more violent/War based games or anything about that, just wanted to voice my opinions and ask something of Frantz (should he decide to reply again) Personally, I think this is an incredible idea. It makes me feel so happy when I see a concept that I had previously associated with the future begin to take shape in the present, because it means I might actually be alive and well to witness and hopefully use some of this technology. I am a long time Miniatures player, especially Warhammer, and I have often mused about having an interface like this to add some animation to the skirmish. TV shows like Yu-Gi-Oh intrigued me a bit as well, not for the anime-ish quality, but because in the show there existed a technology like this wherein the cards would come to life. The Eye of Judgement game for PS3 is similar to this, but on a TV screen.. I was also wondering of Frantz: Have you ever heard of Shadowrun the Pen and paper RPG? It has something called AR and is used similarly to this, including an FPS played in AR called Miracle Shooter, wherein the actual person takes the role of the caracter, kind of like laser tag... I’m not going to argue about whether we need more violent/War based games or anything about that, just wanted to voice my opinions and ask something of Frantz (should he decide to reply again)

Personally, I think this is an incredible idea. It makes me feel so happy when I see a concept that I had previously associated with the future begin to take shape in the present, because it means I might actually be alive and well to witness and hopefully use some of this technology.

I am a long time Miniatures player, especially Warhammer, and I have often mused about having an interface like this to add some animation to the skirmish. TV shows like Yu-Gi-Oh intrigued me a bit as well, not for the anime-ish quality, but because in the show there existed a technology like this wherein the cards would come to life. The Eye of Judgement game for PS3 is similar to this, but on a TV screen..

I was also wondering of Frantz: Have you ever heard of Shadowrun the Pen and paper RPG? It has something called AR and is used similarly to this, including an FPS played in AR called Miracle Shooter, wherein the actual person takes the role of the caracter, kind of like laser tag…

]]> By: Toys and Augmented Reality « WE ARE ROBOTS http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-74693 Toys and Augmented Reality « WE ARE ROBOTS Sat, 23 May 2009 22:30:50 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-74693 [...] The project of Designer Frantz Lasorne combines the joys of virtual reality, and tangible toys. Using Augmented Reality Tangible User Interface via head-mounted glasses, and old toys, a new environment is created that allows childs to play new games. Read more | Via [...] [...] The project of Designer Frantz Lasorne combines the joys of virtual reality, and tangible toys. Using Augmented Reality Tangible User Interface via head-mounted glasses, and old toys, a new environment is created that allows childs to play new games. Read more | Via [...]

]]> By: cra http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-71990 cra Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:17:59 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-71990 We do so get off on war. look at all the absolutely pointless wars about the world happening right now. And i think wargaming is a great hobby for kids as it actually exercises the brain a heck of a lot, (don't ask how, it just does ;)). As for "virtual discovering nature, or virtual caring for pets?" -why virtual? those things are kinda easy to experience non-virtually. War on the other hand is very dangerous when not practiced in a virtual manner, and we do get off on it. so... Great idea man, i too have always dreamed of a system like this. really cool, i hope you get to follow it through fully. We do so get off on war. look at all the absolutely pointless wars about the world happening right now. And i think wargaming is a great hobby for kids as it actually exercises the brain a heck of a lot, (don’t ask how, it just does ;) ).
As for “virtual discovering nature, or virtual caring for pets?” -why virtual? those things are kinda easy to experience non-virtually. War on the other hand is very dangerous when not practiced in a virtual manner, and we do get off on it. so…
Great idea man, i too have always dreamed of a system like this. really cool, i hope you get to follow it through fully.

]]> By: pupiberto http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-71653 pupiberto Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:06:56 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-71653 The HUD its like the Metroid Prime and Ghost Recon AW series. The HUD its like the Metroid Prime and Ghost Recon AW series.

]]> By: Маркетинг высоких технологий | New Age Branding http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-71063 Маркетинг высоких технологий | New Age Branding Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:43:27 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-71063 [...] в ролике вряд ли у меня получится. Детали читайте здесь. Смотрите [...] [...] в ролике вряд ли у меня получится. Детали читайте здесь. Смотрите [...]

]]> By: KaOS http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-69869 KaOS Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:54:00 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-69869 This reminded me of the movie avalon, where players of a game can suffer and feel real pain. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267287/ besides that I still think it's the parents responsibility to teach their kids how to cope with any kind of game/reality or in this case augmented reality. Really, only if they have experienced, they will be able to distinguish. if you prohibit, they will look for wargames behind your back. Better learn them how to handle them. And on the technical side, nice proof of concept. can't wait to experience this myself K This reminded me of the movie avalon, where players of a game can suffer and feel real pain.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267287/

besides that I still think it’s the parents responsibility to teach their kids how to cope with any kind of game/reality or in this case augmented reality. Really, only if they have experienced, they will be able to distinguish. if you prohibit, they will look for wargames behind your back. Better learn them how to handle them.

And on the technical side, nice proof of concept. can’t wait to experience this myself

K

]]> By: Fernando http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/16/surreal-becomes-real-with-toys-and-ar/comment-page-1/#comment-69368 Fernando Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:02:00 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=7168#comment-69368 Wow, this is superb, I always dreamed of something like this, as a child (I'm 19 now so not so long ago) I spent hours upon hours between playing with toys and playing with games like Starcraft. I see your points, between band practices and the university solo gaming can really hit your social life (at least in my case) and so recently I took to DnD. This project you're undertaking has the promise of making the transition between the tangible and the virtual almost seamless, I wouldn't be surprised that computers in twenty/thirty odd years worked with something similar or derived from your screen concept. Regarding the violence, a child's imaginations is his own to explore, culture from literature to music is filled with different aspects of society that people are just interested in exploring. Shakespeare often wrote about conflict and the Iliad is nothing but war and we find these to be the maxims of western culture, this is why I applaud your work, I see it not as a game of violence but a game of wits and tactics, similar to chess or checkers or that game R2D2 played with Chewbacca, or even warhammer or dnd, risk and warcraft. It is not something that will make children interact any less, in fact they will interact more, (and to this I might add that across the centuries people have always been worried about children, just find an old newspaper, before the video games it was: that they read too much or some other nonsense.So take it easy people and just let kids play) Good luck in your project. -Fer Wow, this is superb, I always dreamed of something like this, as a child (I’m 19 now so not so long ago) I spent hours upon hours between playing with toys and playing with games like Starcraft. I see your points, between band practices and the university solo gaming can really hit your social life (at least in my case) and so recently I took to DnD. This project you’re undertaking has the promise of making the transition between the tangible and the virtual almost seamless, I wouldn’t be surprised that computers in twenty/thirty odd years worked with something similar or derived from your screen concept. Regarding the violence, a child’s imaginations is his own to explore, culture from literature to music is filled with different aspects of society that people are just interested in exploring. Shakespeare often wrote about conflict and the Iliad is nothing but war and we find these to be the maxims of western culture, this is why I applaud your work, I see it not as a game of violence but a game of wits and tactics, similar to chess or checkers or that game R2D2 played with Chewbacca, or even warhammer or dnd, risk and warcraft. It is not something that will make children interact any less, in fact they will interact more, (and to this I might add that across the centuries people have always been worried about children, just find an old newspaper, before the video games it was: that they read too much or some other nonsense.So take it easy people and just let kids play)

Good luck in your project.

-Fer

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