Comments on: Poll Position http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/ Modern Industrial Design News Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:15:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ENRIQUEhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-273607 ENRIQUE Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:54:24 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-273607 HI. I would like to use this design? can you contact the manufacturer o admin of the product for me. thanks. HI. I would like to use this design? can you contact the manufacturer o admin of the product for me.

thanks.

]]> By: @LordMamihttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-246439 @LordMami Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:00:44 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-246439 The bus stops around here don't even have benches and so I really like this as a ( most likely ) cheaper way of going about a few seats at the bus stop without spending the budget on a full out bus bench/covered seating area/etc/whatever. Mostly, even if it's only two seats - there's somewhere for the elderly to sit down, or the lady with all her groceries to sit - who, around here, are the majority of bus riders. I think this would only work areas without a lot of bus traffic ( like where I live ), and only at specific stations - but it isn't a bad idea. The bus stops around here don't even have benches and so I really like this as a ( most likely ) cheaper way of going about a few seats at the bus stop without spending the budget on a full out bus bench/covered seating area/etc/whatever. Mostly, even if it's only two seats – there's somewhere for the elderly to sit down, or the lady with all her groceries to sit – who, around here, are the majority of bus riders. I think this would only work areas without a lot of bus traffic ( like where I live ), and only at specific stations – but it isn't a bad idea.

]]> By: @LordMamihttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-273606 @LordMami Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:00:44 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-273606 The bus stops around here don't even have benches and so I really like this as a ( most likely ) cheaper way of going about a few seats at the bus stop without spending the budget on a full out bus bench/covered seating area/etc/whatever. Mostly, even if it's only two seats - there's somewhere for the elderly to sit down, or the lady with all her groceries to sit - who, around here, are the majority of bus riders. I think this would only work areas without a lot of bus traffic ( like where I live ), and only at specific stations - but it isn't a bad idea. The bus stops around here don't even have benches and so I really like this as a ( most likely ) cheaper way of going about a few seats at the bus stop without spending the budget on a full out bus bench/covered seating area/etc/whatever. Mostly, even if it's only two seats – there's somewhere for the elderly to sit down, or the lady with all her groceries to sit – who, around here, are the majority of bus riders. I think this would only work areas without a lot of bus traffic ( like where I live ), and only at specific stations – but it isn't a bad idea.

]]> By: Stevenhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-193217 Steven Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:48:52 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-193217 Hi. I dont know in your cities but in Colombia, on the streets, the common place to join the trash to be colectec by the garbaje truck is the Stick (I dont know whats the name of the stick were go trought the telefone and energy cables). I agree with carl. All the DOGS piss on this, i know that because i have one dog.. So we have garbaje, dog piss, the smok produced by the buses passing close to us, positibily of been washed by a car passing trought some water on the street.. And the wood could have a short life in the outside.. So i would prefere a concret seat.. Hi. I dont know in your cities but in Colombia, on the streets, the common place to join the trash to be colectec by the garbaje truck is the Stick (I dont know whats the name of the stick were go trought the telefone and energy cables). I agree with carl. All the DOGS piss on this, i know that because i have one dog.. So we have garbaje, dog piss, the smok produced by the buses passing close to us, positibily of been washed by a car passing trought some water on the street..

And the wood could have a short life in the outside.. So i would prefere a concret seat..

]]> By: Stevenhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-273610 Steven Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:48:52 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-273610 Hi. I dont know in your cities but in Colombia, on the streets, the common place to join the trash to be colectec by the garbaje truck is the Stick (I dont know whats the name of the stick were go trought the telefone and energy cables). I agree with carl. All the DOGS piss on this, i know that because i have one dog.. So we have garbaje, dog piss, the smok produced by the buses passing close to us, positibily of been washed by a car passing trought some water on the street.. And the wood could have a short life in the outside.. So i would prefere a concret seat.. Hi. I dont know in your cities but in Colombia, on the streets, the common place to join the trash to be colectec by the garbaje truck is the Stick (I dont know whats the name of the stick were go trought the telefone and energy cables). I agree with carl. All the DOGS piss on this, i know that because i have one dog.. So we have garbaje, dog piss, the smok produced by the buses passing close to us, positibily of been washed by a car passing trought some water on the street..

And the wood could have a short life in the outside.. So i would prefere a concret seat..

]]> By: karlhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-77429 karl Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:30 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-77429 24 inches is a damn high seat 24 inches is a damn high seat

]]> By: Brennanhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-77231 Brennan Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:13:30 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-77231 Interesting, I can see both sides of this arguement, in fact, before I read the comments, I was thinking very similar things to our "Alec" above. Standing to close to the road and getting hit is your fault for stupidity. Sitting too close to the road on an installment is the designer/implementer's stupidity. It's true, no matter who good the intentions are, you'll still end up sitting next to the drunkard. Even if you had a bench that he took up all but two seats laying down on, you'd still be in the same place as this is now. But, since our Mr. drunkard has nowhere to lay down, he'll sit on the seat opposite you around the pole, only leaving one seat. Which means this really accomplished nothing. And that is an antonym of good design. It's about solving problems effectively, not *slightly* shifting the idea around and presenting it like it's a world saver... I do give kudos for actually building it, though. Interesting, I can see both sides of this arguement, in fact, before I read the comments, I was thinking very similar things to our “Alec” above.

Standing to close to the road and getting hit is your fault for stupidity. Sitting too close to the road on an installment is the designer/implementer’s stupidity.

It’s true, no matter who good the intentions are, you’ll still end up sitting next to the drunkard.

Even if you had a bench that he took up all but two seats laying down on, you’d still be in the same place as this is now. But, since our Mr. drunkard has nowhere to lay down, he’ll sit on the seat opposite you around the pole, only leaving one seat.

Which means this really accomplished nothing. And that is an antonym of good design. It’s about solving problems effectively, not *slightly* shifting the idea around and presenting it like it’s a world saver…

I do give kudos for actually building it, though.

]]> By: iSHhttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-38922 iSH Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:16:56 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-38922 well its not the fact that we are "pessimistic". This is like saying complaining about a stone wheel design in 2009 would be "mean". Its not the fact that we look at all the 'bad features' its just that there is no good features. Its only 2 seats and at most it would be vandalized or a homeless person would STILL be sitting on it. They need a more innovating design then just a fordable chair on a stick. well its not the fact that we are “pessimistic”. This is like saying complaining about a stone wheel design in 2009 would be “mean”. Its not the fact that we look at all the ‘bad features’ its just that there is no good features. Its only 2 seats and at most it would be vandalized or a homeless person would STILL be sitting on it. They need a more innovating design then just a fordable chair on a stick.

]]> By: Catherine Penahttp://www.yankodesign.com/2008/08/13/poll-position/comment-page-1/#comment-37282 Catherine Pena Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:57:21 +0000 http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=1947#comment-37282 I(the designer, can assure you that I have considered all of your 7 points. But perhaps it might be worth your time to consider a few things before you make so many assumptions. This project was initially a temporary public art project in Memphis TN. There are 8,000 bus stops in Memphis and less than 20 % of them have ANY seating. Yes a bench would be great and more seating, but the reality is that MATA (Memphis Area Transit Authority) will not install seating and shelter until a single bus stop is used 100 times a day. Plus most of the roads do not have shoulders or sidewalks, leaving its riders in unsafe locations regardless of what they are sitting on. I think it is funny that people don't start thinking about the safety of bus passengers until something is installed to complain about. The design can accommodate different pole shapes and diameters. But yes it does require a pole. Yes I agree, wood is not a proper material, but when they (the chairs) are only going to be installed outside for 30 days and you are working with a small budget, wood, yes my friend, wood is a good material. The chair stands 24 inches off the ground and the last time I checked that is a pretty average height for a chair. I am currently working on a prototype that is made out of a more permanent material. If you are interested you can log on to: ridinggreen.blogspot.com and read my full field study. I(the designer, can assure you that I have considered all of your 7 points. But perhaps it might be worth your time to consider a few things before you make so many assumptions. This project was initially a temporary public art project in Memphis TN. There are 8,000 bus stops in Memphis and less than 20 % of them have ANY seating. Yes a bench would be great and more seating, but the reality is that MATA (Memphis Area Transit Authority) will not install seating and shelter until a single bus stop is used 100 times a day. Plus most of the roads do not have shoulders or sidewalks, leaving its riders in unsafe locations regardless of what they are sitting on. I think it is funny that people don’t start thinking about the safety of bus passengers until something is installed to complain about.
The design can accommodate different pole shapes and diameters. But yes it does require a pole.
Yes I agree, wood is not a proper material, but when they (the chairs) are only going to be installed outside for 30 days and you are working with a small budget, wood, yes my friend, wood is a good material.
The chair stands 24 inches off the ground and the last time I checked that is a pretty average height for a chair.
I am currently working on a prototype that is made out of a more permanent material.
If you are interested you can log on to: ridinggreen.blogspot.com and read my full field study.

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