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> <channel><title>Comments on: Infinite Loop of Style</title> <atom:link href="http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/</link> <description>Modern Industrial Design News</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:30:10 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4</generator> <item><title>By: amr helmy</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-47492</link> <dc:creator>amr helmy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-47492</guid> <description>we are the producers of this piece ( the endless nile table) and you can see the wooden version of it and to understand its structural secret in:
www.amrhelmydesigns.com
we are surprised why yanko didnt put the manufacturer name on the piece!!! to handle all your  questions pls mail us @:
info@amrhelmydesigns.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are the producers of this piece ( the endless nile table) and you can see the wooden version of it and to understand its structural secret in:</p><p> <a
href="http://www.amrhelmydesigns.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amrhelmydesigns.com</a></p><p>we are surprised why yanko didnt put the manufacturer name on the piece!!! to handle all your  questions pls mail us @:<br
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href="mailto:info@amrhelmydesigns.com">info@amrhelmydesigns.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Upali-Sri lanka</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-26985</link> <dc:creator>Upali-Sri lanka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-26985</guid> <description>A designer is an artist yet they give creativity, they show the fine music hidden in physical matter, same time they would show what has to do to the manufactures. The rethems of Rashid&#039;s creations brought me to a dream world. Congratulations it&#039;s lake a beautiful piabo part.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A designer is an artist yet they give creativity, they show the fine music hidden in physical matter, same time they would show what has to do to the manufactures. The rethems of Rashid&#8217;s creations brought me to a dream world. Congratulations it&#8217;s lake a beautiful piabo part.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marty</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-25244</link> <dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:18:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-25244</guid> <description>What the hell is going on here? Why is everyone acting so hostile?
Ive never heard of this Karim Rashid guy, but i think this is a very clever and aesthetically pleasing work of art. And i dont understand the &quot;difficulty of manufacture&quot; argument. Most &quot;new&quot; or innovative items are difficult to manufacture by the sheer aspect that they arent being made one the same decades year old production lines that crank out the common plastic crap you see in every store. If something is to be manufactured, and it fits within actual physical material tolerances, then it will be manufactured, the means of manufacturing will expand to permit it. If every new object must only fit within what is cheap and easy, then there will be no innovation. And of the hundred or so items i have seen showcased on this site in the past couple of days, this is the first one where &quot;recycleability&quot; is a point of contention, even though many many of the other products might not be made of recyclable materials or even contain harmful chemicals common to electronic devices, which, i might add, due to the fact that they become obsolete quickly, MUST be much more recyclable than furniture. I have pieces of furniture in my house that are 20-30 years old. And if i want to get rid of furniture, i dont send it away to be melted down and sold back to me by some huge company, i give it away to someone else who needs or wants it.
Its become chic to obsess over being eco-friendly, and yet people focus almost soley on the least efficient, least eco-friendly, most energy intensive of the &quot;three R&#039;s&quot;. Reduce and Reuse, and when you cant do either, THEN Recycle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is going on here? Why is everyone acting so hostile?</p><p>Ive never heard of this Karim Rashid guy, but i think this is a very clever and aesthetically pleasing work of art. And i dont understand the &#8220;difficulty of manufacture&#8221; argument. Most &#8220;new&#8221; or innovative items are difficult to manufacture by the sheer aspect that they arent being made one the same decades year old production lines that crank out the common plastic crap you see in every store. If something is to be manufactured, and it fits within actual physical material tolerances, then it will be manufactured, the means of manufacturing will expand to permit it. If every new object must only fit within what is cheap and easy, then there will be no innovation. And of the hundred or so items i have seen showcased on this site in the past couple of days, this is the first one where &#8220;recycleability&#8221; is a point of contention, even though many many of the other products might not be made of recyclable materials or even contain harmful chemicals common to electronic devices, which, i might add, due to the fact that they become obsolete quickly, MUST be much more recyclable than furniture. I have pieces of furniture in my house that are 20-30 years old. And if i want to get rid of furniture, i dont send it away to be melted down and sold back to me by some huge company, i give it away to someone else who needs or wants it.</p><p>Its become chic to obsess over being eco-friendly, and yet people focus almost soley on the least efficient, least eco-friendly, most energy intensive of the &#8220;three R&#8217;s&#8221;. Reduce and Reuse, and when you cant do either, THEN Recycle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: carl</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-24366</link> <dc:creator>carl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:03:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-24366</guid> <description>Matt Jobson is an idiot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Jobson is an idiot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: john</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-21711</link> <dc:creator>john</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:13:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-21711</guid> <description>Matt Jobson&#039;s brain needs to be recycled.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Jobson&#8217;s brain needs to be recycled.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Jobson</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-21128</link> <dc:creator>Matt Jobson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-21128</guid> <description>my point was that no. this is not a product that needs to be recycled. It&#039;s really a one of a kind product, that has a famous name attached to it.
People that buy it, will buy it for the name or the strangeness, their not going to want to throw it away in 3 years. It&#039;s NOT a consumable. Unlike consumer electronics. It&#039;s not going to break in 3 years either.
It&#039;s basically a sculptural piece of art. not a mass produced item.
So it&#039;s entirely pointless to even consider recycling of the product.
No one&#039;s gonna try and pull apart the mona lisa, just because it&#039;s old and boring now. It&#039;s value lies in the name and the piece itself, not it&#039;s function.
I hate that most designers don&#039;t really bother to think about what their told. Wer&#039;e told that we should be looking to recycle products, but when a product comes along, doesn&#039;t suit the criteria of &quot;CONSUMABLES&quot;, u mount the same argument.
Does a traditional samurai sword need to be made to be recycled?  What about all products that come with a lifetime guarantee? Or things like a Rolex watch? Or Sidchrome tools? When you break them, they will replace them for free, because there supposed to last forever and shouldn&#039;t break.
All of these products aren&#039;t things your likely to see end up in landfill!
Designers are meant to use their brains and common sense.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my point was that no. this is not a product that needs to be recycled. It&#8217;s really a one of a kind product, that has a famous name attached to it.</p><p>People that buy it, will buy it for the name or the strangeness, their not going to want to throw it away in 3 years. It&#8217;s NOT a consumable. Unlike consumer electronics. It&#8217;s not going to break in 3 years either.</p><p>It&#8217;s basically a sculptural piece of art. not a mass produced item.</p><p>So it&#8217;s entirely pointless to even consider recycling of the product.</p><p>No one&#8217;s gonna try and pull apart the mona lisa, just because it&#8217;s old and boring now. It&#8217;s value lies in the name and the piece itself, not it&#8217;s function.</p><p>I hate that most designers don&#8217;t really bother to think about what their told. Wer&#8217;e told that we should be looking to recycle products, but when a product comes along, doesn&#8217;t suit the criteria of &#8220;CONSUMABLES&#8221;, u mount the same argument.</p><p>Does a traditional samurai sword need to be made to be recycled?  What about all products that come with a lifetime guarantee? Or things like a Rolex watch? Or Sidchrome tools? When you break them, they will replace them for free, because there supposed to last forever and shouldn&#8217;t break.</p><p>All of these products aren&#8217;t things your likely to see end up in landfill!</p><p>Designers are meant to use their brains and common sense.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: carl</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-21100</link> <dc:creator>carl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:11:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-21100</guid> <description>Wood, steel and corian just how is this item recycled. (And yes all products should come with the ability to be recycled, just because they are durable does not mean they will not be aesthetically obsolete in a few years)
Take away the Rashid name tag and do you still like it? Does Karim dine out again on his name? Is this his best piece to date?
Undoubtedly this man has done some great great products, but you are only as good as your last piece of work. Are Starck and Newson as good as they were or just riding out their names? id hate to see Karim &#039;the breath of fresh air&#039; Rashid fall foul of the same mistake others have made.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wood, steel and corian just how is this item recycled. (And yes all products should come with the ability to be recycled, just because they are durable does not mean they will not be aesthetically obsolete in a few years)</p><p>Take away the Rashid name tag and do you still like it? Does Karim dine out again on his name? Is this his best piece to date?</p><p>Undoubtedly this man has done some great great products, but you are only as good as your last piece of work. Are Starck and Newson as good as they were or just riding out their names? id hate to see Karim &#8216;the breath of fresh air&#8217; Rashid fall foul of the same mistake others have made.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Jobson</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-20953</link> <dc:creator>Matt Jobson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:15:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-20953</guid> <description>Of course it&#039;s not efficient, it&#039;s not meant to be. It&#039;s meant to be a signature piece, a one of a kind type of thing, not the same class as the rest of the stuff that industrial designers usually make, which is almost classed as disposable.
While I totally agree that karim is a hack and I hate most of his work, the reality is that this is less product design and more sculptural, which lends itself towards high cost, inefficient manufacturing process and a talking piece.
It is very elitist, but it is what it is. And possibly the 10 people in the world that eventually will own it, will treasure it more than the 100,000 that will own an ikea table.
It&#039;s not going to break after 10-20 years, so it&#039;s not a product that needs to be designed to be recyclable.
It just doesn&#039;t fit any of the categories of product design, so there is just no reason to compare it to mass produced items, nor design.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s not efficient, it&#8217;s not meant to be. It&#8217;s meant to be a signature piece, a one of a kind type of thing, not the same class as the rest of the stuff that industrial designers usually make, which is almost classed as disposable.</p><p>While I totally agree that karim is a hack and I hate most of his work, the reality is that this is less product design and more sculptural, which lends itself towards high cost, inefficient manufacturing process and a talking piece.</p><p>It is very elitist, but it is what it is. And possibly the 10 people in the world that eventually will own it, will treasure it more than the 100,000 that will own an ikea table.</p><p>It&#8217;s not going to break after 10-20 years, so it&#8217;s not a product that needs to be designed to be recyclable.</p><p>It just doesn&#8217;t fit any of the categories of product design, so there is just no reason to compare it to mass produced items, nor design.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christine</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-20891</link> <dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-20891</guid> <description>Well of course it&#039;s not impossible, it&#039;s just not efficient. Karim is a so-called industrial designer and the industrial designer&#039;s role is to create products that optimizes function, aesthetics  as well as manufacturing processes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of course it&#8217;s not impossible, it&#8217;s just not efficient. Karim is a so-called industrial designer and the industrial designer&#8217;s role is to create products that optimizes function, aesthetics  as well as manufacturing processes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Jobson</title><link>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/comment-page-1/#comment-20851</link> <dc:creator>Matt Jobson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:21:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/03/05/infinite-loop-of-style/#comment-20851</guid> <description>&quot;the “Endless Nile” table by Karim Rashid, is a fluid form of DuPont Corian molded over a steel structure on a wooden base.&quot;... Does that not give away, that, it is, in fact manufacturable?
It says &quot;fluid form of Dupont Corian&quot; , obviously thats a rare treatment for corian, because mostly it comes in sheets, but it didn&#039;t start out as sheets of corian, so there just using the raw material. Think along the lines of resin molds.
Just because it&#039;s super difficult and time consuming doesn&#039;t mean that it can&#039;t be manufactured.
Sure. it would be pretty bloody hard to injection mold a large form like that, but it would never be injection molded. It&#039;s too big, too expensive and too &quot;out there&quot; that it wouldn&#039;t warrant 5,000,000 copies.
Think more like max 5000 and realistically 250-500 at best.
One of my lecturers from uni has the skills to do this sort of crap, and with some careful advice from Dupont, I&#039;m sure you wouldn&#039;t have any issues in making it work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the “Endless Nile” table by Karim Rashid, is a fluid form of DuPont Corian molded over a steel structure on a wooden base.&#8221;&#8230; Does that not give away, that, it is, in fact manufacturable?</p><p>It says &#8220;fluid form of Dupont Corian&#8221; , obviously thats a rare treatment for corian, because mostly it comes in sheets, but it didn&#8217;t start out as sheets of corian, so there just using the raw material. Think along the lines of resin molds.</p><p>Just because it&#8217;s super difficult and time consuming doesn&#8217;t mean that it can&#8217;t be manufactured.</p><p>Sure. it would be pretty bloody hard to injection mold a large form like that, but it would never be injection molded. It&#8217;s too big, too expensive and too &#8220;out there&#8221; that it wouldn&#8217;t warrant 5,000,000 copies.</p><p>Think more like max 5000 and realistically 250-500 at best.</p><p>One of my lecturers from uni has the skills to do this sort of crap, and with some careful advice from Dupont, I&#8217;m sure you wouldn&#8217;t have any issues in making it work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
